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On 31 January 2015 at 18:00, Alex B. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I am having issue grasping how to accomplish interacting between two
> controller.
>
> My design is as follows: I am coding a Microblog. I can make
> posts, which are text, and need to extract hashtags from that content.
> Right now I use a form_for to get the input for the micropost. I have
> put in the models that a micropost has_many Hashtags and that Hashtags
> belongs_to micropost.
>
> My question is where do I put the code to do this? I can't seem to make
> a new hashtag directly from the view in a similar way as my microposts.
> My initial try was to put the extract code in the create method of the
> Post controller. Anything pointing me in the right direction would be
> great.

As I guess you are a beginner to Rails, I suggest you work right
through a good tutorial such as railstutorial.org (which is free to
use online). That will show you the basics of rails and should answer
your question, and a lot more that you will need to ask.

Colin

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On 31 January 2015 at 18:42, Tiago Rossi <tiago@boltassessoria.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the answer guys, its truth, I have two versions installed, the
> server has latest version of Cpanel/WHM and it has a script developed by
> Cpanel to install ruby 1.8.3 ( /scripts/installruby ) that way ruby will
> appear at the Cpanel from each user and they can manage the apps, if I
> install any other version I need to manage the apps via command line but I
> need latest version then I've installed ruby from scratch downloading the
> latest version from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/
> When I type ruby -v it shows 2.2.0 but at rails it shows 2.3.8. Thanks Very
> Much to shows me the free online book! It will gonna be a very good
> reference to me!
> I'll uninstall the rails and all dependencies and try to install the latest
> version and then I'll install rvm.

Install rvm first, then install rails within rvm. No particular need
to remove anything first unless you need the space.

Colin

> Best Regards!
>
> Tiago Rossi
>
> Em sábado, 31 de janeiro de 2015 07:05:51 UTC-2, Colin Law escreveu:
>>
>> On 31 January 2015 at 05:30, Tiago Rossi <ti...@boltassessoria.com> wrote:
>> > Hello, and first of all, Im starting with ruby and Ive installed into my
>> > server, sorry for my newbie question here guys.
>> > After install rails when I type rails -v it shows Rails 2.3.18 but after
>> > I
>> > type gem dependency rails it shows Gem rails-4.2.0 and other
>> > dependencies.
>>
>> I presume by that you mean that it shows the dependencies for several
>> versions of rails. In which case it means you have several versions
>> of rails installed. Your application will use whichever version you
>> specify in Gemfile.
>>
>> rails -v shows you which version is in use.
>> If you need to manage multiple versions I advise using rvm. Others
>> like rbenv I believe.
>>
>> gem list will show you all the versions of gems that are installed.
>>
>> If you have not already done so then, as you are a beginner with
>> rails, I suggest working right through a good tutorial such as
>> railstutorial.org (which is free to use online). That will show you
>> the basics of rails.
>>
>> Colin
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On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Alex B. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> I am having issue grasping how to accomplish interacting between two
> controller.

You shouldn't be thinking about controllers here at all.

> My design is as follows: I am coding a Microblog. I can make
> posts, which are text, and need to extract hashtags from that content.
> Right now I use a form_for to get the input for the micropost. I have
> put in the models that a micropost has_many Hashtags and that Hashtags
> belongs_to micropost.
>
> My question is where do I put the code to do this?

Since the data that has to be processed is in the Micropost, why not
have the hashtag creation method there?

If you invoke that method on a callback like before_save, then you'll
be able to edit the post and have the hashtags updated each time.

Alternatively you could use a "factory" class to build the hashtags
with the Micropost as the input.

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I am having issue grasping how to accomplish interacting between two
controller.

My design is as follows: I am coding a Microblog. I can make
posts, which are text, and need to extract hashtags from that content.
Right now I use a form_for to get the input for the micropost. I have
put in the models that a micropost has_many Hashtags and that Hashtags
belongs_to micropost.

My question is where do I put the code to do this? I can't seem to make
a new hashtag directly from the view in a similar way as my microposts.
My initial try was to put the extract code in the create method of the
Post controller. Anything pointing me in the right direction would be
great.

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On 31 January 2015 at 05:30, Tiago Rossi <tiago@boltassessoria.com> wrote:
> Hello, and first of all, Im starting with ruby and Ive installed into my
> server, sorry for my newbie question here guys.
> After install rails when I type rails -v it shows Rails 2.3.18 but after I
> type gem dependency rails it shows Gem rails-4.2.0 and other dependencies.

I presume by that you mean that it shows the dependencies for several
versions of rails. In which case it means you have several versions
of rails installed. Your application will use whichever version you
specify in Gemfile.

rails -v shows you which version is in use.
If you need to manage multiple versions I advise using rvm. Others
like rbenv I believe.

gem list will show you all the versions of gems that are installed.

If you have not already done so then, as you are a beginner with
rails, I suggest working right through a good tutorial such as
railstutorial.org (which is free to use online). That will show you
the basics of rails.

Colin

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On 30 January 2015 at 16:43, PandaR1 <fabio.montarsolo@gmail.com> wrote:
> This very simple script was running in 4.1.6
>
> require '.\config\config.rb'
> require '.\models\transazioni.rb'
>
> Transazioni.where(isprocessed: 'N').each do |tr|
> puts tr.id_transazione + ' ' + tr.transdate.to_s + ' ' + tr.idmaximo.to_s +
> ' ' + tr.codsap
> end
>
> exit
>
>
> database.yml:
>
> # DATA SOURCE
> datasource:
> adapter: oracle_enhanced
> url: jdbc:oracle:thin:@x.x.x.x:1521:xxxx
> username: xxx
> password: xxx
>
>
>
> config.rb:
>
> require 'rubygems'
> require 'active_record'
> require 'yaml'
> require 'logger'
> require 'C:/jrails4/jruby/lib/ojdbc6.jar'
>
> @config_db = YAML::load(File.open("config/database.yml"))
> $src_db = @config_db["datasource"]
>
>
> Now with 4.2.0 I got this error:
>
> C:/jrails4_update/jruby/lib/ruby/gems/shared/gems/activesupport-4.2.0/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:587
> warning: already initialized constant Reference

My guess would be that something is getting loaded twice. I suggest
taking out all the requires and putting them back till you get the
problem. That may help you to home in on it.

Colin

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On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 12:54:15 AM UTC+1, JDog wrote:
> I'm doing some wonky stuff  and I am at a point where I need to, in an after_save callback, modify some data and update an hstore column, but not trigger the save callback again. 
>
> What methods are available to me?
>
>

How about update_column(s) http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveRecord/Persistence.html#method-i-update_columns ?

Fred

> Thank you!

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On 30 January 2015 at 14:40, Colin Law <clanlaw@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 January 2015 at 14:17, Sean Kelley <kelleyfarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Your command line affects development db also which is not ideal. I looked up db:test:prepare and it appears to be deprecated in 4.2
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15169894/what-does-rake-dbtestprepare-actually-do

I think if you read that right through including /all/ the comments
you will find it has been un-deprecated again.

Colin

>>
>> I decided to try it anyway with RAILS_ENV=test but I get same error of duplicate table 'users' so I tried without the test env set and I get db connection is closed message for test.
>
> I presume your development db is up to date (so running migrate on
> that does nothing).
> What happens if you recreate the test db and then run migrate on it?
> Does the migrate run successfully?
>
> Colin

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On 30 January 2015 at 14:17, Sean Kelley <kelleyfarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks. Your command line affects development db also which is not ideal. I looked up db:test:prepare and it appears to be deprecated in 4.2
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15169894/what-does-rake-dbtestprepare-actually-do
>
> I decided to try it anyway with RAILS_ENV=test but I get same error of duplicate table 'users' so I tried without the test env set and I get db connection is closed message for test.

I presume your development db is up to date (so running migrate on
that does nothing).
What happens if you recreate the test db and then run migrate on it?
Does the migrate run successfully?

Colin

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On 29 January 2015 at 15:52, Toby Donaldson <donaldsontoby@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am following the guide here:
>
> http://guides.rubyonrails.org/getting_started.html

Rather than starting with the guides (which do not always include all
the necessary details) I suggest working through a good tutorial such
as railstutorial.org (which is free to use online). That should get
you going ok.

>
> I am on part 4.1 but when typing into the command line what it says to type
> I get that bin is not recognized as an internal or external command?

If you want an answer you would be better to tell us what operating
system you are running on exactly what you typed. Preferably
copy/paste from the terminal your command and the result, into a reply
here so that we know you have not introduced a typo here.

Colin

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On 29 January 2015 at 16:11, Brian Sammon
<rubyonrails-list@brisammon.fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:54:54 +0000
> Colin Law <clanlaw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 29 January 2015 at 15:46, Brian Sammon
>> <rubyonrails-list@brisammon.fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> > Is there any good documentation of the controller callback order for
>> > rails?
>> >
>> > I'm not sure whether the before_action comes before the around_action,
>> > if it comes after, or maybe "it depends".
>> >
>> > The Action Controller guide doesn't really answer the question.
>>
>> http://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_callbacks.html#available-
>> callbacks
>> says that they are listed in the order they will get called.
>
> I'm sorry -- I was asking about Controller _filters_, not model
> _callbacks_.
>
> If only filters were as well documented as callbacks.

No need to be sorry, my error. That's what comes from not reading the question.

Colin

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:54:54 +0000
Colin Law <clanlaw@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 29 January 2015 at 15:46, Brian Sammon
> <rubyonrails-list@brisammon.fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > Is there any good documentation of the controller callback order for
> > rails?
> >
> > I'm not sure whether the before_action comes before the around_action,
> > if it comes after, or maybe "it depends".
> >
> > The Action Controller guide doesn't really answer the question.
>
> http://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_callbacks.html#available-
> callbacks
> says that they are listed in the order they will get called.

I'm sorry -- I was asking about Controller _filters_, not model
_callbacks_.

If only filters were as well documented as callbacks.

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On 29 January 2015 at 15:46, Brian Sammon
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> Is there any good documentation of the controller callback order for
> rails?
>
> I'm not sure whether the before_action comes before the around_action,
> if it comes after, or maybe "it depends".
>
> The Action Controller guide doesn't really answer the question.

http://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_callbacks.html#available-callbacks
says that they are listed in the order they will get called.

Colin

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Is there any good documentation of the controller callback order for
rails?

I'm not sure whether the before_action comes before the around_action,
if it comes after, or maybe "it depends".

The Action Controller guide doesn't really answer the question.

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On Thursday 29 January 2015 at 16:34, Nicolò Benigni wrote:

Hi to all, I am a junior developer who has worked on differents rails

application but never wrote one.

Now, I would like to develop my first "big" rails app. I would love to

know if someone has some links that suggest good patterns, organization

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Hi to all, I am a junior developer who has worked on differents rails
application but never wrote one.

Now, I would like to develop my first "big" rails app. I would love to
know if someone has some links that suggest good patterns, organization
ecc...

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Thank. Don´t need to say anything else. Indeed it is not rails fault.

PostgreSQL 9.3.5 on x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc
(Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3, 64-bit


Hassan Schroeder wrote in post #1167348:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Rodrigo Lueneberg
> <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>> OK, but if they are the same there would be no need for 2 different
>> types under PostgreSQL database. According to the post link provided,
>
> So you prefer to believe a 5-year-old SO post rather than actual
> product documentation?
>
> Up to you. Regardless, while I read it as numeric and decimal being
> the same thing, you can test that theory yourself. Here's one way:
>
> testdb=# create table things ( name varchar(255), price decimal );
> testdb=# \dS things
> Table "public.things"
> Column | Type | Modifiers
> --------+------------------------+-----------
> name | character varying(255) |
> price | numeric |
>
> This is on a PG 9.3.5 installation, BTW; you didn't mention what
> version you're running, so YMMV.
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