Ruby on Rails

> On Sep 23, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Walter Lee Davis <wa...@wdstudio.com> wrote:
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>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Colin Law <cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 23 September 2017 at 01:32, fugee ohu <fuge...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 8:18:52 PM UTC-4, nynhex wrote:
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>>>> The problem is you're not reading directions or doing your own research.
>>>> Take the advice of everyone who's offered to help you and go through some
>>>> basic Rails tutorials.  Nobody is going to write your app for you.
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>>>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 7:00 PM, fugee ohu <fuge...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> What could the problem be?
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>>> That's not the problem The problem is you're not helping, but replying for
>>> reasons unexplained
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>> Likely no-one here knows the answer to your problem. We are trying to
>> help you by pointing to the code so that you can look through it and
>> work it out for yourself. Once you work out the answer make sure you
>> post it here so the next person to have similar problems will find it
>> and understand what is going on.
>>
>> Colin
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> Let me second this last point -- I have found answers through Google to current questions where I wrote the answer years ago. Memory is a fickle thing.
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> And there is a (fairly snarky) essay out there, old as dirt, to the tune of "ask smart questions", which crystallizes the replies you have found here in this thread, and what they point out to you. But I prefer Julia Evans' take on this: https://jvns.ca/blog/good-questions/

And if you do want to go to the waterfall instead of the well, here's the original: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I had forgotten it was written by Eric Raymond and peers! Talk about old as dirt.

Here's a "money quote" from early in the introduction:

> The first thing to understand is that hackers actually like hard problems and good, thought-provoking questions about them. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here. If you give us an interesting question to chew on we'll be grateful to you; good questions are a stimulus and a gift. Good questions help us develop our understanding, and often reveal problems we might not have noticed or thought about otherwise. Among hackers, "Good question!" is a strong and sincere compliment.
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> Despite this, hackers have a reputation for meeting simple questions with what looks like hostility or arrogance. It sometimes looks like we're reflexively rude to newbies and the ignorant. But this isn't really true.
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> What we are, unapologetically, is hostile to people who seem to be unwilling to think or to do their own homework before asking questions. People like that are time sinks — they take without giving back, and they waste time we could have spent on another question more interesting and another person more worthy of an answer. We call people like this "losers" (and for historical reasons we sometimes spell it "lusers").


Walter

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> Take a deep breath, read the whole thing, reflect on what people have been hinting to you here. Then gain a little humility, and realize that people take their own time out to answer your question. You owe them the effort to make that question a good one, and to take their answer -- even if it means more work for you -- seriously.
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> Walter
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