Ruby on Rails

For your information, the context of my previous post is focused on form_with, the method in the discussion.

But, for broader sense, Basecamp and DHH are great and generous companion to be in the same community. You can't find community like this somewhere else.

However, we all eventually grow up from the Rails way.
You are frustrating with Turbolinks, et al, these are normal.
Me too, have the same experience, my project don't even use Active Record, for me it is a pain, and every design based on ER diagram is usually subpar IMO.

However, I won't give up on Rails, it is so far beyond other community from my point of view. After all Rails is just a bunch of libraries, if you don't like some, just ignore it, the benefit from the community is far exceeding it down side.

And you too, should see it already, or you won't stick to it this long.

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