Ruby on Rails

@Marnen: Thank you! I appreciate it a lot..

The joy I feel after reading your reply, when things start to make
sense.. this is great, thanks :)

wrote below..

On Jun 30, 4:08 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> newcomer wrote:

>
> [...]
>
> > I'm currently developing on Windows.. started with using InstantRails
> > and installed Git on Cygwin. This allowed me to experiment with some
> > developing locally, begin with local version control and git-clone
> > repositories for plugins/Gems.
> > As I read some more, I realized I'd probably want to deploy my App on
> > a Linux/Unix based server rather than a Windows one and that
> > developing on windows and deploying on Linux (the way I initially
> > started developing) might not be a good idea at all.
> > Therefore I decided to install VM on my Windows machine.. have seen
> > some posts lately on the subject.. currently I just installed VMWare
> > Player (had to use version 2.5, my CPU wasn t compatible with 3.1) but
> > have thoughts of maybe trying VirtualRails instead (if it works on my
> > machine) I did see VirtualRails is using MintLinux-based Linux and
> > was wondering whether that might cause future problems (as opposed to
> > using Ubuntu for example)?
>
> I doubt that that would be a problem. I develop on Mac OS X (which is
> BSD, not Linux) and routinely deploy to Linux servers without any
> problem.
>

This one surprised me a bit as I heard many confident "no-no"s on
this, though what you wrote sounds like good news. Naturally, best
thing would be to try it out, just hesitated because of what I've
heard on this subject.. (and besides, was also thrilled to get into
Linux as well, though learning everything from scratch at the same
time has it's pros and cons..)

I did have another reason to go and install VM, though I'm not sure it
was a correct one, short description as follows:

In one of the posts around I read about Cappuccino and it looked
great, so wanted to try it out as well for my User Interface.. but the
download instructions contain a shell script I'm supposed to be
running (if I understood correctly), when not building from the source
(being a Newbie and after reading a bit I assumed this was not for me
yet).
Anyway, when happily going to Cygwin to run the bootstrap.sh file I
encountered the following message:

"Error: Narwhal is not compatible with your JVM. Please switch to the
Sun (HotSpot) JVM and re-run bootstrap.sh"

and from reading a bit
(like here:
http://groups.google.com/group/objectivej/browse_frm/thread/c4996786d8465be7/72d2fcdcfdf7ccb7?tvc=1#72d2fcdcfdf7ccb7
)

I understood (though haven't asked directly and I may be wrong here)
VM won't encounter such problems.. it's Cygwin that's not supported

But.. now that I'm writing it here, I re-think this and actually don't
know if that's a required thing for my needs of Cappuccino or even if
I understood correctly.. (sigh..)

> [...]

After this re-thinking and sighing, I still am very happy about the
information you supplied me with..

Thanks again :)

Nin.

On Jun 30, 4:08 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> newcomer wrote:
> > Hi Jeremy and everyone :)
>
> > Found myself following this discussion and all the great informative
> > answers supplied here. I am too in a learning process with my first
> > app, very much a Newbie (in RoR and Web in general, though have a
> > programming experience) and lately have been trying to figure out the
> > deployment process, terms, and sort of 'what belongs where' :)
>
> Welcome!
>
> [...]
>
> > I'm currently developing on Windows..  started with using InstantRails
> > and installed Git on Cygwin. This allowed me to experiment with some
> > developing locally, begin with local version control and git-clone
> > repositories for plugins/Gems.
> > As I read some more, I realized I'd probably want to deploy my App on
> > a Linux/Unix based server rather than a Windows one and that
> > developing on windows and deploying on Linux (the way I initially
> > started developing) might not be a good idea at all.
> > Therefore I decided to install VM on my Windows machine.. have seen
> > some posts lately on the subject.. currently I just installed VMWare
> > Player (had to use version 2.5, my CPU wasn t compatible with 3.1) but
> > have thoughts of maybe trying VirtualRails instead (if it works on my
> > machine) I did see VirtualRails is using MintLinux-based Linux and
> > was wondering whether that might cause future problems (as opposed to
> > using Ubuntu for example)?
>
> I doubt that that would be a problem.  I develop on Mac OS X (which is
> BSD, not Linux) and routinely deploy to Linux servers without any
> problem.
>
> [...]
>
> > Ok deployment questions:
> > I couldn't understand for sure whether I need both a host and a place
> > to deploy my App?
>
> No.  A host is a place to deploy your app.  Same thing.
>
> [...]
>
> > I mean it didn't make sense I'd use both Passenger and Capistrano
> > (probably it does but I understood they're both used for deployment,
> > thus the confusion..), unless Capistrano does both automated
> > deployment but can also be used when using a different deployment
> > service..
>
> They are different tools for different purposes.  Capistrano takes care
> of putting your app on the server, while Passenger serves it once it's
> there.
>
> > I feel and know I mix everything up here, but any light you can put
> > for me on this subject will be very helpful..
> > Was also confused by the fact Phusion Passenger offers "Phusion
> > Passenger for Nginx".. while I got the impression (obviously a wrong
> > one, or not full) I can deploy my app on Nginx as well?
> > At least I heard people mentioning Nginx at the same sentence with
> > Heroku and Passenger..
>
> Apache and Nginx are Web server programs.  By themselves, they just
> serve static files without any server-side dynamic content.  This is
> great for serving static websites, but obviously will not work if you're
> using a server-side programming language like PHP or Ruby.  For Apache
> or Nginx to run PHP/Ruby/Python/whatever applications, it needs a module
> to connect it to the appropriate interpreter.  That's basically what
> Passenger does.
>
> In other words, you need Passenger (or something similar, but Passenger
> is probably simplest) in order for Apache or Nginx to talk to the Ruby
> interpreter.  Passenger is available either as an Apache module or as an
> Nginx module.
>
> > This brings me to another question:
> > I also understood I can use heroku for deployment, which will require
> > not more than one git push every once in a while (of course I know
> > there's much more to it, but it was to explain me the ease of use)..
> > in case I do use heroku (couldn't find any cons to using it I should
> > be aware of, if someone can write a few from his/her experience, I'll
> > be glad to learn..) can I git push from my local repository or do I
> > need first to push to a remote one, such as a public/private
> > repository on GitHub?
>
> You can git push from anywhere.  Heroku doesn't care.
>
> > Moreover, if I'm the only one playing around
> > with this app right now what benefits can a GitHub repository give
> > me comparing to using it locally?
>
> It gives you another copy of the code stored offsite.
>
> [...]
>
> > More about Heroku if I choose to use it, do I need a host as well?
>
> Heroku *is* a host.
>
> Best,
> --
> Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org
> mar...@marnen.org
>
> --
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