Thursday, November 13, 2014
please allow me to elaborate on Colin's reply:
Colin is - if you trace the archives - one of this maillists most helpful and you will have to look hard to find him 'sending off people' that infact to put in the hours.
It is a trend in society that you 'show off' from the get go, only to realize that it really does require some hard work to do anything and the old saying: do something for 10,000 hours and then you will master it, still hold!
We all benefit from open source and the astronomical hours put into open source projects like Rails by a legion of programmers - and we get to use it __for free__ ! All we have to do is our effort and interest - and demonstrate that when we ask for guidance and problem solving.
I believe that is a fair request
Walther
Den 13/11/2014 kl. 09.25 skrev Colin Law <clanlaw@gmail.com>:On 13 November 2014 01:10, Andrew Gimma <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:I don't know why people are generally so unhelpful on these message
boards. I've been a professional programmer for years, and I've seen so
many people turned away because people just say "go read an entire book
for this one simple problem" rather than helping new users along.
Because so often when a user asks a simple question and it is answered
with a simple answer then a few hours later or the next day the user
asks another simple question, and another and another. Therefore I
always suggest that beginners take a few days to work right through a
good tutorial so that they understand the basics of rails, and then
get back to trying to solve their particular problem. In this
particular case it appears the guy says 'I already went through the
tutorial a few days ago'. It is not clear to me whether that meant he
skipped through it or worked right through, doing the exercises and so
on. Whichever, that does not invalidate my initial suggestion, as I
had no information as to whether he had already worked through a
tutorial or not.
If a beginner is put off learning a craft by someone suggesting that
he spends some time educating himself then one has to wonder about his
commitment in the first place.
I think if you look through the archives you will see that many times
I have helped users along as you put it, but I feel it is also
incumbent on them to put some effort in to help themselves.
Colin
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