Ruby on Rails Wednesday, September 1, 2010

Thanks so much for all of your comments and thoughts. I have
personally decided that I will continue to use Debian as my
development and production servers due to it's stability. Since I'm
sticking with Debian, I decided to write down my process of installing
Rails 3 on Debian and all of the small gotchas that I ran into and
turn it into a blog post. For my particular application (which is very
basic and only has some tests written so far), I ran into two major
problems installing the gems when using bundler: 1) SQLite3 was out of
date and 2) Nokogiri needed some dependencies installed. So, below
you'll find my writeup of what I *think* is the proper way to install
Rails 3 on Debian Lenny.

I would love some feedback, so if you see anything that looks odd (or
just doesn't work on your system...mine isn't quite stock), please let
me know and I'll update my guide.

http://www.fangiotophia.com/journal/2010/8/31/random-act-of-stupidity-6-debian-rails-3-setup-guide.html

Thanks again for your responses to my question, there were very
helpful in my decision making.

Topher

On Aug 31, 4:15 pm, Greg Donald <gdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser
>
> <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
> > Interesting.  When I chose between Debian and Ubuntu about 4 years ago,
> > part of my reason for choosing Ubuntu was reading that Ubuntu's package
> > management was *more conservative* than Ubuntu's, and that as a result
> > Ubuntu packages were *more stable* than Debian packages.  Did something
> > change in those 4 years?
>
> > (I've used both Debian and Ubuntu in that time and not noticed much
> > difference.)
>
> Well..  in the 12 years I've been using Debian, it has never once left
> me with an un-bootable system.  The software is frozen for several
> months before a stable distro is released, and then updates only
> contain security fixes, not new features.  The only thing I've ever
> found more stable than Debian is BSD, FreeBSD in particular has been
> rock solid for me over the years.  I usually use FreeBSD (or OpenBSD
> if my hardware supports it) for my firewall servers where I don't even
> trust Linux.
>
> Ubuntu provides me with bleeding edge new versions of everything, just
> like you would want for a modern desktop, but in turn has left me with
> an un-bootable system many times.  Their recent choice to go ahead
> with Grub 2.0, for example, took down 5 developer machines where I
> work a few months back.. and that was the 10.04 LTS distro that is
> supposed to be long-term stable.
>
> I've never once had to "fix" a Debian system after performing updates.
>  Ubuntu I've fixed more times that I can count.
>
> I'm sure everyone's experience varies, but mine has been that Ubuntu
> has much newer versions, and as a result is less stable than Debian
> overall.
>
> --
> Greg Donald
> destiney.com | gregdonald.com

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